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romney has talked about. not very detailed. this seems to be a trend. what it did do, if you extrapolated how much money we're talking about, you would look at cutting the education budget by up to 20%. when it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country, because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. one of the things i suspect governor romney and i agree on, getting businesses to work with community colleges to set up training programs. >> do you agree, governor? >> let me finish the point. >> going very well in my state, by the way. >> where they are partnering, designing training programs and people who are going through them, know there is a job waiting for them if they complete. that makes a big difference, but that requires federal support. let me just say one final example, when it comes to making college affordable, whether it's two year or four year, one of the things i did as president, we were sending $60 million to bank
romney has talked about. not very detailed. this seems to be a trend. what it did do, if you extrapolated how much money we're talking about, you would look at cutting the education budget by up to 20%. when it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country, because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. one of the things i suspect governor romney and i agree on, getting businesses to work with community colleges to set...
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president obama and mitt romney head back out to the campaign trail today where the president making stops in colorado and wisconsin. romney will travel to virginia. let's get a bit more into this debate. joining us now for more is a republican strategist and former mccain/palin aide. and a democratic strategist and former senior adviser to the presidential campaignses of john e he hedwards and wesley clark. let's start with you. by all accounts this was going to be the debate where mitt romney would be the strongest on the issues around the economy because really the president's coming from the back foot on these issues in what have been difficult few years of his leadership so far. so he couldn't fail on do well surely. >> all accounts going in did not add up to what actually happened. the expectations for mitt romney were high, but he exceeded all those expectations. this was the best debate of his political life going back to his first campaign in '94, the gubernatorial campaigns in massachusetts and all the debates they had in the primaries. this was a great performance by mitt
president obama and mitt romney head back out to the campaign trail today where the president making stops in colorado and wisconsin. romney will travel to virginia. let's get a bit more into this debate. joining us now for more is a republican strategist and former mccain/palin aide. and a democratic strategist and former senior adviser to the presidential campaignses of john e he hedwards and wesley clark. let's start with you. by all accounts this was going to be the debate where mitt romney...
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. >> but paul ryan has disavowed the ryan plan. mitt romney is not bound he says by the ryan plan. mitt romney has offered a plan that is actually has so little in that you can't even run the numbers. i mean, if you have a plan that is basically filled with empty magic asterisks you can't analyze whether this will deal with a budget deficit in the future. the independent tax policy center said in fact -- >> it's a left wing group, for crying out loud. it's a left wing group. >> -- tonight on taxes. good to see you both. thanks for your time. as the president and governor romney make their final preps, corporate america gets their chance to weigh in. >> when we come back, the former president and coo of verizon on what big business wants to hear tonight. >> but before the break, money man jim cramer's take. >> nobody asked me. i'm not running. i'm not part of a debate. but i stand for higher stock prices for all. if you like me, i will put through my plan to switch to clean burning job creates natural gas vehicles and educate the mass's money. clean the skies. rebuild our run down i
. >> but paul ryan has disavowed the ryan plan. mitt romney is not bound he says by the ryan plan. mitt romney has offered a plan that is actually has so little in that you can't even run the numbers. i mean, if you have a plan that is basically filled with empty magic asterisks you can't analyze whether this will deal with a budget deficit in the future. the independent tax policy center said in fact -- >> it's a left wing group, for crying out loud. it's a left wing group....
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romney's talked about. and it wasn't very detailed. this seems to be a trend but what it did do is to -- if you extrapolated how much money we're talking about you'd look at cutting the education budget by up to 20%. when it comes to community colleges. we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. and one of the things i suspect governor romney and i probably agree on is getting businesses to work with community colleges so that they're setting up their training programs. >> lehrer: do you agree governor? >> oh, sure, oh, yeah, yeah. >> i suspect it will be a small agreement. >> lehrer:>> it's going very well in my statement, yeah. >> they're partnering so that they're designing training programs and people who are going through them know that there's a job waiting for them if they complete it. that makes a big difference, but that requires some federal support. let me just say one final example. when it comes to
romney's talked about. and it wasn't very detailed. this seems to be a trend but what it did do is to -- if you extrapolated how much money we're talking about you'd look at cutting the education budget by up to 20%. when it comes to community colleges. we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. and one of the things i suspect governor romney and i probably agree on is getting businesses to work...
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he is at a rally with his running mate paul ryan. president obama's campaign event is getting underway right now. you're seeing live pictures there in denver. expect the president to start speaking in a minute as soon as he starts, of course, we'll bring that to you. jessica yellin is at that event as well, and jessica, we've heard a lot of spin. we've heard it late last night. we've heard it early into the morning. is there a point where the surrogates, the supporters who you are talking to acknowledged that the president needs to do better, he needs to move on, he needs to make up for what happened last night? >> no one is officially with the campaign will say that, suzanne. i am talking to democrats who definitely are agreeing with that, and i'm sure you are. they're arg urg that mitt romney was not really truthful, and i think we'll see in the coming days and weeks that the campaign will take on some of the claims that went unanswered last night by the president, but it doesn't resolve the question why didn't the president answer
he is at a rally with his running mate paul ryan. president obama's campaign event is getting underway right now. you're seeing live pictures there in denver. expect the president to start speaking in a minute as soon as he starts, of course, we'll bring that to you. jessica yellin is at that event as well, and jessica, we've heard a lot of spin. we've heard it late last night. we've heard it early into the morning. is there a point where the surrogates, the supporters who you are talking to...
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romney talked about. it wasn't very detailed. it seems to be a trend. what it did do is to if you extrapolated how much money we're talking about you look at cutting the education budget by up to 20%. when it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. one of the things i suspect governor romney and i probably agree is is getting businesses to work with community colleges so they're setting up training programs. -- >> moderator: do you agree, governor. obama: let me finish. romney: yeah. obama: their partnering so that they're designing training programs and people who are going through them know there's a job waiting for them if they deplete it. >> moderator: okay. obama: that makes a big difference it requires federal support. let he say one final example. when it comes to making college affordable, whether it's two-year or two-year. one of the thing i did as president we were sen
romney talked about. it wasn't very detailed. it seems to be a trend. what it did do is to if you extrapolated how much money we're talking about you look at cutting the education budget by up to 20%. when it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. one of the things i suspect governor romney and i probably agree is is getting businesses to work with community colleges...
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and i think the only thing that would worry me is if i really believed that romney and ryan were going to get elected and they were going to come in and dramatically cut government spending, that would lead to a recession, and that would worry me. but i don't think they're going to get elected, but more importantly, i don't think they would do that if they did get elected. nears no republican that ever has. i think ceos are focused on what the consumer is doing, what are their customers doing. and as jim cramer said a little earlier, i think between 23 and 27 minutes of the world's focus was on this last night. the people have moved on to more substantive topics now. >> so the bottom line is that it does not matter for a domestic business who gets elected? when it comes to the fundamental -- >> i think it does matter, but i think it matters because i think barack obama is the person who is most likely to be able to continue growing the economy. and the things that romney has proposed are unlikely to be successful. but i don't think ceos react to something like a debate. you know, they'
and i think the only thing that would worry me is if i really believed that romney and ryan were going to get elected and they were going to come in and dramatically cut government spending, that would lead to a recession, and that would worry me. but i don't think they're going to get elected, but more importantly, i don't think they would do that if they did get elected. nears no republican that ever has. i think ceos are focused on what the consumer is doing, what are their customers doing....
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romney has talked about. it was not very detailed. this seems to be a trend. what it did do -- if you extrapolate it how much money we are talking about, you are looking at cutting education by 20%. when it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. one thing i suspect we probably agree on is getting businesses to work with community colleges. >> do you agree? >> let me finish my point. they are partnering -- they are designing training programs and people who are going through them know there is a job waiting for them if they complete it. there requires some federal support. let me say one final example. when it comes to making college affordable, whether it is two- year or four-year, one thing i did is we were spending $60 million to banks and lenders as middlemen for the student loan program, even though they were guaranteed. there was no risk for the banks and lenders, but they were taking billions out of the system. why not cut out
romney has talked about. it was not very detailed. this seems to be a trend. what it did do -- if you extrapolate it how much money we are talking about, you are looking at cutting education by 20%. when it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. one thing i suspect we probably agree on is getting businesses to work with community colleges. >> do you agree?...